For you I guess self abuse is better then no abuse, enjoy your self

try a few local munches, here are the urls of sites for information.....

http://www.centraltexaskink.org/localgroups.htm http://www.centralbdsm.com/contactcentralbdsm.htm http://ravishu.com/forums/index.php?board=83.0

I wrote a blog Everyone Read if you want its called my first experience!!!

damn, oh well, good for you 

so, any luck... 

Still got my eye on some train tickets if not 8) 

I am in Texas but im talk about some elso in texas traveling wouldnt be far ya know

honeychile, I'm all in favor of you finding someone to pull your chains nearby! you need it, you want it, you deserve it.

you have the same problem all people have - finding someone local. My view is to find someone I want, whether or not she's local, and deal with distance later.

But whatever works. Look for a munch to go to.

Alan

> heck, I'd get on a train, what state?

If you could read - she claims Texas.

Which really ain't that far from SoCal :)

Alan

Wrapping chain around yourself is pretty safe, heck you can even try tying the end to something. 

I assume though what your talking about from a safety stand point is the breath play. While I will admit it can be dangerous the easiest thing to do is watch what materials you use and make sure whatever you use will automatically relax if you do pass out, that's the danger is that if you pass out and still aren't getting any air your screwed.

If your looking for something else in the chain like though I suggest trying to find a "choke chain" style dog collar, these relax pretty well when there's no tension on them and the safety feature that helps is oiling it with a little baby oil (or liquid soap). 

There's also methods that are 100% safe though none that I can think of that uses chain.

P. 

Having anything around your neck, without some DAMN good reason to believe that it can't choke is potentially suicidal.

You can safely run it behind your neck and then under your arms.

Needless dieing can real get in the way of your other plans.

Don't do it. 

So i am new to this i don't have a master yet so I went out and bought a huge 10 foot chain and wrapped it around my neck and my body when i pleasure myself and all i have to do is move a ccertain way and it gets tighter around my neck.. Now the problem its cold (i guess good for torture)well i guess no problem really hurts which is also good umm question is this safe to be doing by myself or can i accidently die or something im fine right now but sometimes i almost faint. Can anyone suggest different equiptment??? 

Yeah, you could die. you could die in SO MANY WAYS. Even if you had a master...though not so likely.

The different equipment I suggest is "a master"; but then, you've probably gotten 20 e-mails from sf denizens telling you that.

So try putting the chain in the fridge for a while, and wrapping you ankles, or your waist and pussy, or your boobs, or just covering your face with cold chain...or all the above (lots of chain - but then, I am an afficianado of chain). Just try to keep away from your neck, and one hand free to get yourself out (and touch yourself too?).

Probably you won't die. But the supply of chain-loving subs is limited, and we don't like to see it diminished.

And try to get that master!

Alan

I am against anyone attempting to do self torture to themselves as even the seasoned slave can have an accident. Always have someone near or there (which I know can be unrealistic in some cases).

There are some books out there that deal with this from a beginer to experienced level, but almost all of them warn of being alone while attempting this. Yes, anything is possible and if your restricting your air flow enough to pass out, you could risk severe damage or death.

D