Thank you PeJay for posting this its and interesting discussion and I think I'll add my two cents.

Personally I think a cut down to just male dom/ female sub would be beneficial. The truth is while tolerance and getting along is needed in this day and age so is exclusivity. In the whole of the internet there are plenty of sites devoted to homosexual bdsm, sites which are exclusive. These are good homosexual people are in the minority on earth and those into bdsm an even smaller minority. However the people who are straight and into bdsm are in the minority too and we have only a small handful of sites devoted to us and even less that cater to the Master/slave relationship. Saying we want to get rid of male subs doesn't mean we are preaching intolerance or prejudice it simply means we want a place of our own. By making this site exclusively Master/slave it would join a small number of similar sites and as with supply and demand I think our membership would actually go up. Also it would open up a new level of discussion because everyone while sharing various kinks would still have a common thread to understand one another. While I must admit we will lose things, most of the wide variation of kink that exists now will remain, and what is lost will have become superfluous without the male slaves.

I would like to finish off by saying this I've heard it said a few times that by making this cut the site will loose half of its members but I would ask two things:

First will we actually lose half or just trade those we lose for others.

Second what is that half worth to the site, how much do those interested in the male slave ideal really contribute, I can say with all honesty I don't ever remember seeing a truly worth while post by a male slave.

In any case its the providence of our WebMaster to decide who this site allows and while I believe it should be as he intended the decision rests with him.

Judging by the varied points of view put so far here then I agree with the idea that a vote/poll be a  way to decide what the general consensus is amongst the members. well for what its worth that is My take on the discussion

I am also disappointed that you have dropped the "male slave" category and hope that you will return it in the near future.

Webmistress

There don't seem to be many taking this topic seriously out side those who have already posted here. Only 23 votes total so far.

i like this post to sum up all the coments on this subject i agree and will add if you don't want to look at dicks or burned tits or fat weman,sissey boys pass it by why make a big deal of it are we going to change a site because of it then we end up with a v2 or v3 all over again you can't please ever one

I respect the work and the site owner, that´s the reason I´ve expressed my opinion, right?..

Bdsm is all about tolerance with different views of the same scenario.

Its still the Webmasters site, and he has stated above what he intended this site to be for. as said, by diferent people, there are other sites out there for other interests. what is wrong with makw this site for this one interest, to what the owner of it wants it to be. those who wish to stay and enoy it for what it is, will stay. others will leave. It may will attract more people in turn, who knows, but I/we are going to stay and support the Webmaster and this site, no matter what way it will go on as it is or if he makes the clean cut. as i did stated above, a clear label on the front, a mission statement, if you want, for this site and i do feel it be inportant to bbe consequent about it, either way its decided. like said. it is HIS site and ultimatly for him to decide what platform and for whom he wants to offer it. and if you do not like it, i don't think he nor anyone else will hold a gun to your head to stay here. If you end up not liking this Website after, you are certainly free to make your own and gear it for what interest you want it to be, for the people you like to see on it. Build a better mousetrap, so to say. For all his work, time and effort he has put in here and continues to put in, i think he deserves to see it take the venue he envisioned for it when it got concieved.

 Freedom is the ability to choose your own chains.

i completely agree

Hello folks,

I´ve been reading this for the last ten minutes, and I´m a little concerned about the direction this is going. In my opinion, you should not start to make this kind of changes on slavefarm. One thing that´s really GREAT here, is that anyone can express what they really feel inside, and have no worries about what other people will think.

Each and every single group in consensual bdsm should be granted the privilege to express themselfs freely on SlaveFarm, cause that diversity makes the site what it is. That´s why I keep coming back.

Best regards,

MasterTuga

 i dont think its that people cant stand to see a dick pic at all, i think thats twisting wot was said clearly it was about  a male slave seeking forum and seeing men in submissive gear, acts, scenes and or sitituations i feel that was pretty clear from the beginning of this conversation. 

i wont comment on male bisexuality because i have nothing nice to say but there are lots of sites for homosexuals involved in bdSm.  ultimatly n people are gonna hate this "its WebMasters vision for this site that counts it will be wot he wants as it should be n we should all show him his due respect"

W/we are A/all horribly beautifully made

One of the nice things about Slave Farm has aways been its pan-sexual nature. Masters, Mistresses, male and female slaves. It is what gave this site its character. And one of the few places that has not been overrun with spam and bots. To elminate half of the people who come here is crazy. We are all part of the same community. I am bi, and welcome either male or female slaves.

The idea that some people can't stand to see a dick pic is not a problem, but then again, who wants to see a pic of a 250 pound naked women, with tits down to her knees? That cannot turn anyone on.

Keep the site open to all who are serious about this. Keep the male slaves, Mistresses, and others who want to actually participate.

I do not look at forum post from male slave as I have no interest but since this has created such a stir, I'll chime in. I have cast my vote and yes I would like it to be Maledom/femsub or  Master/slave.

i'm not here to make money so I don't care.. as long as we can support the servers and the development - i would rather see good community than 10 million sissyboy users.. i'm not saying this issue is being decided by vote, i just want to hear how the users feel..

lets see

http://www.slavefarm.com/v4s/content/Maledomfemsub_poll

 Boss, as said, you have my support either way, it may tick some off, and cost you some subscriptions, but i feel liek that's not really why you have this site in the first place. only thing, like i mentioned, once we do this cut, you have to be consequent and clear about it.. (as in a huge banner on the front page clear, LOL.

 Freedom is the ability to choose your own chains.

okay so maybe im the only one but WebMaster did clearly state how he wanted the site ~~~ he maintains it, he keeps it going in all yrs ive been here i see people come n go but the site stays because of him   without him it wouldnt be here n i say once again he clearly stated how he wants it. i personally feel no loss  in losing the sissys i think its yucky seeing a man be tortured or degraded men are men and i hate that some lose sight of thier role in life its why society as a whole is somewot of a wreck because of weak men. i rarely talk n i suspose thats a good thing but we ask wot people want n then ignore thier answer its funny i think cause he did say wot he wanted. humans are curious indeed im glad i'll only be stuck with them a short time

W/we are A/all horribly beautifully made

mibdsm can kiss my ass, and he can go make a fool of himself any place on the internet he pleases.. no little loudmouth leach will ever get a say in SF's future... i will listen to active sensible users on SF, and what they want.. but rest assured that I will never submit to pressure from assholes like mibdsm

years back, when we stopped accepting "dick" pictures - it was done on user request
now TV, gays and male are again spamming us with images and wasting our time..

I say, let's make a clean cut.. and go maledom/femsub 100%

I have been a member of SF for over two years, i feel that this topic could lead into something great or complete disaster, This site should be open to all types of bdsm and from what i see is. when on this site im chating with friends sharing stories, ideas, yes there are alot of other sites that catter to gay domination femdoms and so on, in my eyes i dont have a problem with sharing my space with that, so what if a male sub wants a master or mistress or the female looking for a mistress?  I would hate to see a good slave go to waste at any point. if you say no it becomes more of a target for problems, i would hate to see this site go under scrutiny for not allowing all types in. thats the way i see it, if i dont like it i dont look i move on.

 just seen this in the status updates: mibdsm is encouraging all femdoms and male subs to boycott slavefarm and remoe any links from their sites due to remaoval of male slave forum. maybe the problem resolves itself at this rate. i still think a clear statement would help on the front page that it is intended for maledom/femsub maybe it will help. and PeJay,  what happens if we take a vote on it and it changes the intend of wat the site is for? whats next then? we got to put up ruber band dick pictures? i don't know, both side of the argument have valid points. its just we need to pick a direction and once we do, we need to be consequent about it. not being consequent has gotten us where we are now. we put it up to a vote and you have all male slave come and vote, is that what we do want? to be open? or stay with the directive Webmaster originaly intended?

 Freedom is the ability to choose your own chains.

Sounds  like a good idea to me...

 i be happy to keep this a maledom/femsub site, it may help to have a celar line on that on the front page and then we do should be consequent and also remove any posts of male slave seeking we see on the forums and remove the CBT tag. should we even go so far and telling male submissive to leave here? i seen pictures before that got approved of a male slave with only a female finger in the picture. or a leg. to me, thats not exactly attractive. and i be staying here for the maledom/fem sub at any rate, not anything else

 Freedom is the ability to choose your own chains.

Karaoke, yeah.. why not.. let the discussion grow and we'll see where it ends I'm open to all arguments..

Dragon_Farm, I understand your points.. Let me put the question out there. What are male subs doing here, and what are they contributing ? There are only pictures of female slaves, and as far as I can see they are just burning bandwitdh for no reason.. There are tons of totally free and open BDSM sites, that cater to everybody.. Why go down the same road ? Let's find a road less travelled.. There should be room in this world for everybody.. malesubs, gays, femdoms, etc etc.. but why can't maledoms/femalesubs not have a place of our own ? .. princessen and I don't post ads on femdom sites ( and if we did, they would tell us to fuck off).. we live like this 24/7, and feel we should be able to have a community just for people that feels like us..

I have no use for the endless dick pictures either. But then I don't look at many of the other pictures. I have no idea how many dicks of masters you have to delete. If you want to focus on maledom/femsub then please clean out the Tags and dump the Mistress forum so we have a clear idea of what you want for your site.

 Boss, its fine if you wwant to have it catering exclusivly this way, for female submission, after all, its your site, and as said, i rather see a girl tied anyday. the flipside is, much like you have to deleet the pictures of some that can't read that part in the legal, not having a forum for them will cause them to post all over the place, like PeJay said. so, whats better? give them a space to put their adds out or have to have it all over the forums in places they dont belong? i can see your point too boss, they don't make space for us on their sites, so why should we? but will this realy stop them? as said, its named slave farm and it will attract anyone that is Dominant or submissive be that male or female.

 Freedom is the ability to choose your own chains.

SF has had this policy for media for many years, and it seems to be the logical next step.. we have never claimed to be a place that included all areas of the BDSM community.. there are many sites that cater to limited groups.. gay sites, femdom sites, etc etc.. i'm wondering why maledom sites always have to give room to others, while they never do..

honestly, i'm tired of spending time deleting media submissions with pictures of guys dick with a rubberband around.. this is not what SF is about.. SF is also not about "having room for everybody"..  so, I don't see the point of this forum, but on the other hand if you all feel strongly about it.. we could have a vote `?

If the arguement is that this is a site for maledom/femsub relationships, we need to get rid of Mistress seeking as well. And I'm not sure the Couples forums fit either. Are all the related tags going to be deleted as well?

While i am more in Maledom myself, i do feel myself compelled to agree with PeJay in this issue. Is a submission any different because a male does it?i could point out the site is named SlaveFarm and not FemaleSlaveFarm, but that's a bit beside the point. Have a forum for males to seek a Master or a Mistress to find their fulfillment is in my opinion a good idea as being it this alternated lifestyle we should keep a open mind. it is bad enough that we get ostracized by the vanilla world for our likes and believes so at least here among ourselves, we should have more open mind. the only thing i seen in legal is the line: At least 1 female must be present in the image. (XX chromosomes). that is fine by me as i do rather see a girl tied up, but we should at least let them have their own forum to find what they desire, or are maledom/femsub the only ones who deserve the rich and fulfilling feeling and happiness this lifestyle can offer?

 Freedom is the ability to choose your own chains.