Subs/slaves - Would you rather?
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Subs/slaves - Would you rather?

Question for subs/slaves:

Assuming all other factors are equal (i.e. Master/Mistress is the same person in both situations below)

Would you rather be collared/owned by a Master/Mistress:

1) that is physically fit but poor (earns less than $45,000/yr and lives in small shoddy dwelling)

or

2) that is overweight but wealthy (income > $200,000/yr and living situation of your dreams)?

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Sir, In all honesty i rarely actually look at a person visually. i have my moments but i am usually extremely unobservant. However were I to choose, and those were my only options, i can not give you a definite answer.
Wealth would mean (in general) living in comfort, without starving, being too cold, or too hot, or having to make due with clothing that is falling apart all for a lack of enough money. To live without all of those hardships, with the only cost being an overweight Master. That is something i could easily live with. However those are hardships i DO live with, and my fiancee is overweight.
On the other hand, a physically attractive Master would certainly arouse my interest much easier. That is not to say that my fiancee has a hard time of it. I find him attractive, but it would make it much easier to view my Master as the "God of my world" if He ,in fact, looked like a Greek God.
I hope that helps answer's your question. i realize i did not actually choose, but that is the way my head works. Smile

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sister aurum_bellus,

"It's only a woman truly aware of her ability to be an equal that can submit to her beloved, for it is only she that is fully aware of the choice she makes in doing so" - quoting myself

Therein lies the truth of a healthy M/s relationship. So eloquently spoken aurum, thank you for sharing these words with us.

respectfully,
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I know better than to wade back in to that fray. But still, in the future, if I read something I disagree with, I will post my own comments. I am entitled to my opinions also. People should not take them so personal and get angry. How can we learn anything if we will not listen to other people's thoughts?

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To answer the original question:
I find it amazing that anyone would think that money or looks is enough for a relationship to be formed. A collaring/ownership is a deep and committed relationship between two people and is not to be taken lightly. It is something that takes time to develop and that takes even more time to learn to live with.
To base the choice of partner in this based on the size of his wallet or what a scale tells you is nothing short to stupidity.

I for one had no idea what Master looked like or what size his wallet was when we first met. I was happily surprised that he was such an attractive man and once I found out about his finances I were already in love with him and we had both earned each others trust.

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If you insist. Your statement that I called BULL, was BULL. I call it like I see it, not to belittle. If you took it personal, that's your problem. And , by the way, you are not the keeper of things valuable either. I can be as bullheaded as you.

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Sir,

"Are you trying to baffle me with your bull? Because that is exactly what your last comment is, BULL."

That comment is NOT considered belittling in your world? Then dang, how do you make friends?

respectfully,
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My last comment on this. I did not seek to belittle anyone, and you know it. I do not belittle ANYONE. Damn, how easily some people get offended if you disagree with them. I thought I made myself clear on not wanting to offend anyone. You will not be appeased, will you.

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i'm with smackdat Wink Tongue

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To honor my sisters and the Doms who replied to this post:

lovesbd wrote:
I do not agree with you ladies on this. Whether or not you are willing to admit it, or even realize it, the first impression you get of the person you see across the room, has a lot to do with whether or not you ever even get to know that person on the inside.

i say to you lovesbd. Your judgement is powerless to belittle us for what we choose to reply on how we feel about a certain post directed to us. For you are mistaken if you are of the belief that you are the keeper of things valuable. Your "first impression" has been the fodder for this statement.

respectfully,
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i am no sheep and do not follow like a herd and i am sure the smakdat isn't either so let's not fight bout it ok

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I did not call anyone sheep, but that is what humans do a lot, follow like sheep. If you agree with the statement, what is your problem.

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Thank you Canadian Master

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Wow, I must say that reading this post is very disturbing. The last comment made stated "humans, have the power to be individuals, or we can follow like sheep.". I agree with this and I can also tell you that Smackdat, littlemissmini and his_pet are definetly not sheep. Maybe this is what bothers some individuals. Lets not taint this site with disrespect for those who make it so great.

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Are you trying to baffle me with your bull? Because that is exactly what your last comment is, BULL. The dialogue, really, is no longer about the original question, but about the answer you ladies gave. Money and looks don't even figure into the equation. How do you discover someone's inner beauty, how do you make "the connection", if you did not even speak to someone because you could not get past your first impression, based on looks. Yes, "Shallow we be", refers to society in general. No, we are not all shallow, but a lot of us are. You can blame it on society if you want, but we, humans, have the power to be individuals, or we can follow like sheep.

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Sir,

lovesbd wrote:
"Yes, shallow people we be." Reference to society as a whole; turn on the TV, browse through a beauty magazine, read a billboard. You say, " the relationship that follows." How many people have you never said the first word to simply because you did not like what you saw?" Perhaps you did read my entire post ~ the part where i write --> With all due respect Sir...

The question in the post remains the same.

First impressions can be a post all on its own should you like to continue this dialogue. For the purpose of this post however, first impression is naught.

"If we could exchange shoes and see things from each other’s perspective taking into account our individual past experiences the world and its truths would appear all anew all alike all different all strangely original and personal. Your truth is not bigger better wiser or more true than my truth. Your truth is just different from my truth."

respectfully,
smackdat

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Yes, shallow people we be. You say, " the relationship that follows." How many people have you never said the first word to simply because you did not like what you saw?

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'Nuff said smacks at, I can only second her comments.
SAA, you a lucky guy

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Sir,

First impressions can be important. i believe we all stereotype everyone on first impression, even if we are reluctant to do so. We get a first impression of someone we just meet and that can create a mental image of his or her personality. That image can affect the relationship that follows or kick it to the curb.

i am a believer of first impressions and second chances, however, the question on the table is:

"Would you rather be collared/owned by a Master who is physically fit and poor or overweight and wealthy?"

To accept one's collar is a commitment not to be taken lightly. i have stated this before, however, i feel it bears to be ferreted up again. We live in a disposable society, and sadly i see it on this website when collars are given and taken away on a whim. Where is the integrity in that commitment?

To sum it up, yes, by all means first impressions are important. More important, shallow people we be if all we can see is what we see on the outside.

With all due respect Sir, i appreciate your post, however, do not presume you know me.

Before i give someone control over my body and mind; entrust him with the responsibility to take care of me, while in return i forsake pride, dignity, and yes, sometimes family to please him; he will be worthy of it for the heart does not care about the outside of a person, or the weight of his wallet, it is what is on the inside the "je ne sais quoi", the glue that holds the healthy M/s relationship together.

Master SSA has stated on one or more occasion that i should where a "stamp" for all to see: WARNING ~ she has a brain and knows how to use it! Smile i take that as a compliment...wink wink

"People take different roads seeking happiness and fulfillment. Just because they are not on your road does not mean they have gotten lost."

respectfully,
smackdat

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I do not agree with you ladies on this. Whether or not you are willing to admit it, or even realize it, the first impression you get of the person you see across the room, has a lot to do with whether or not you ever even get to know that person on the inside.

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money and looks r not even part of the equation, for me it is the connection, what makes me want to serve, looks r on the surface, not what u r on the inside, if there is no connection, then it is not gonna happen, if it is ment to be it will happen, but those things do not matter to this girl, it is how i feel when around Him, that's what matters to this girl

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Totally agrees with smackdat, its not about the money, power, or material things, its all about the heart, and the love of serving, from the heart.

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Sir,

For me it is NOT about the money and it is NOT about physical appearance. It is part of the "je ne sais quoi" that happens between a M/s that is beyond the ability of language to easily explain.

respectfully,
smackdat

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