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New v-4, New Attitude

Since the construction of v-4 is still underway and since it is not yet finalized, I would like to propose a few changes in format if it isn't too late. As follows:

Masters and slaves should be registered as such. Photo verification should be supplied, but not published unless Slave Farm has consent to publish a Master's face along side his slave. The slave should be easily willing to say, yes, this person is her Master or Mistress. Each Master and slave must be able to post a minimum of six (6) photos that include more than simple bondage; there must be some level of pain involved to qualify as Master and slave. Clothespins on nipples or genitals would qualify but a simple pair of hand-cuffs would not. Gags alone would not, but gags plus needles would, and so forth. BDSM is not merely simple bondage and a qualified Master and slave should be easily able to produce more.

Now...only those registered as Masters/Mistresses/slaves/servants; should be allowed to rate BDSM photos. All members should be allowed to view any photo submission, but to allow fake Masters and slaves to grade or rate something that they cannot judge based upon actual experience; should not be allowed in a "contest" even if there is no prize to the winner.

Slave Farm should of course have the right to say that any six photos meet the criterion for posting but viewers who cannot prove that they possess first hand knowledge of BDSM, what would their grading curve be based upon? Even the appearance of suffering can not preclude nor qualify as does the experience of true suffering. Its like a man saying, "well pregnancy doesn't look all that painful!" How would he know, now or ever what it feels like to be pregnant? All members should be allowed access to all photos but cannot rate any photo less than a nine (9) because they could and already have graded certain photos lower than they should be for their own personal reasons. Artist are judged by other artist, not by the opinion of the general public. If I hate Picasso's work, the gallery will not take the painting down in value simply because I don't like it. Once appraised at a certain value by other galleries and other artist and collectors, the price may rise, but rarely can be brought down.

Make no mistake, BDSM is art, and nothing less. Let the Masters, Mistresses and slaves grade one another, let the by standers observe and even comment, but not rate what they cannot comprehend.

This seems to me a fair and equitable prospect which eliminates false and unfair ratings and at the same time, allows those who know how to judge this art, to judge it based upon performance and rationale as opposed to one group's ratings based on friendship and another based upon bigotry, racism or personal bias! Too many people at Slave Farm purport to be Masters or slaves and like someone said, "I can say I'm the Pope of Rome, but it doesn't mean that I am." I fully agree with that sentiment. Let's call things what they truly are and/or, are not!

Lord KnightHawk

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I've smoked dope, chewed rope, danced, french romanced, fucked, farted, and fought.  I have shot the moon and drove big trucks.  I've been to Janesville Maine, Spain, Spokane, and Fort Wayne.  I have been around the world twice.  Looked danger in the face, and even seen goats fuck in the marketplace.  But I ain't never seen no shit like the shit going on in this thread.

THREAD IS LOCKED.

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New v-4, New Attitude

I can not sit here and see this stupidity continue with out comment.

Knighthawk (or someone that can't even use their own profile to comment) and reliant. Just who the hell do you think you are??

You speak of inteligence and respect but you demand that others not have an opinion unless it matchs your own??

I have lived this Lifestyle for almost 30 years now and last time I checked there was not a prerequsit that one has to be a sadist or masochist or think a certain way to be a Master or slave.

You all have truly corrupted what living this Lifestyle is all about.

A slave is not one that can take having nails driven through their nipples or endure massive amounts of pain and discomfort. This is a masochist and can be anyone including people who are vanilla.

A true slave is someone who's heart and soul feels the need to serve this Lifestyle and not just a person who calls themself a Dominant.

This means they do NOT need to be beaten or abused to be a slave.

Master/Mistress is not a term to be taken lightly as they have the responsibilty of someones very existance in their hands.

They must guide and nurture the one they own so they may truly blossum into a slave that is truly committed.

By your way of thinking I have to abuse My slave to be a True Master?? I don't think so!!!

If you don't like what I have to say, I really don't give a damn because your the one who started this post and I have the right to express My opinion in this forum weather you like it or not.

And for My last comment I must say if you don't like the way this site is being run then leave but SHUT UP and quit whining and crying like a child about some rating system that doesn't matter anyway.

You have only proven how immature and narrow minded you truly are.

ShadoWalker

I think ShadoWalker's comments are well said.

I will say that I have not understood this "controversy" (nor have I tried to). I do not understand this "reliant/Lord Knighthawk" thing with their "army of foot soldiers" all over the world. I really don't care to. I have my suspicions but that is all they are.

I don't give a good god damn about the pictures posted, much less some contest that evidently allows a higher form of membership. I don't look at the picture files - in my lifetime of slave ownership, I have seen everything that can be done (and done most of it).

slavefarm has a unique personality that makes it heads and tails above the rest of the other BDSM websites. It is interaction between people who come here for a multitutde of reasons, from newbies to the long established, to talk, to seek, to teach.

Those who don't like it here leave. Those who do like it stay. Usually without a big controversy.

I think that everyone has a right to suggest to the owners of slavefarm that in version 4 certain things be implemented or removed. I suppose that threats to come or go if the owners don't follow the suggestions can be made. The owners will do what they please; they own the site.

Perhaps they will institute a real e-mail system, perhaps they won't. Perhaps they will institute a real search system...or not. I HOPE SO!

Perhaps they will bring back the auction (I can hear a certain male slave seeking that RSN)...but gawd I HOPE NOT!

Perhaps they will follow this "reliant/Lord Knighthawk" anal prescription for a trivial part of slavefarm that doesn't interest me; I DON'T GIVE A GOOD GOD DAMN!!!

My $0.02 on a Sunday morning best spent doing something other than this.

Alan

 

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W/we were asked to stay (see above as an example). W/we were already gone and have not posted for several weeks, BUT; W/we received from those who DO like the photos many request to please stay. NOW once again, W/we are being asked to get out of SF. One side says, "please overlook the detractors; while the other side says, leave us alone you whining n*gg*ers!"

W/we love America, W/we were born here. O/our ancestors were here before any white person ever sat foot on these lands. Because W/we love this nation, W/we fight injustice wherever W/we see it. W/we offer thought provoking topics in the great hope that through discussion A/all will find a place to meet in the middle. When something needs to be fixed, you must fix it; not merely abandon it and thereby create a worse condition.

The FootSoldiers have harmed no one, nor has Lord KnightHawk or kita_Dove; unless open discussion creates harm. W/we were attacked; BUT, W/we attacked no one and now have no wish to discuss anything. Many others dislike the same things that W/we dislike about SF and W/we wished to make moderate adjustments, not cripple anyone. If the only weapon a person has is insults; then that person is truly unarmed. Constructive criticism causes growth, while abusive remarks cause hate and greater distance.

If W/we express an opinion, people tend to comment or ask questions, so W/we address those issues as much to the point as possible, BUT, then you say W/we are crying. A final decision had already been made last night and i am here today to upload a final gallery of appreciation to the friends who stood by U/us and with U/us, who understood O/our plight. W/we do now concede that Slave Farm would be much better off without O/our presence because W/we will never stand idly by and be persecuted for stupidity's sake. If it is wrong to stand up for one's own sake, then W/we are guilty of wrong doing!

So, your wish is now granted; after today's presentation, you will hear of U/us no more. O/our fans and friends will simply have to understand that the walls W/we A/all build as fellow citizens of the same country, are the same walls that have always kept us divided and always shall. As far as anyone who has "suspicions" about who and/or what W/we are...you only needed to ask. W/we can provide proof of O/our existence and verify any claim ever made.

slave reliant, in my Master's stead

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It seems the qualifications of a master/slave relationship seem to be getting more intense... Some one Correct me....Teach me... I mean what the F*** Or is it that ya'll are just trying to screen out the perverts, fakes, and scammers???????

 

Not sure but why the heck would anyone want to get rid of the perverts?..lol.

One persons "fake" is another persons "end to a life long search".

Scammers..yes..get out a large can of "Scammers be Gone" for they seek only to remove money out of your pocket with no return on your investment.

There are no standing pre-requisites persay for M/s. It is what it is to many people who attempt to find others with like minds. No one will agree with all, and most over time will learn, take, and in return give back to communities they touch information that will inform and open up doors previously unknown to them hopefully enriching theirs and others lives along the way. This mindset to ..is a learning process that appears on a linear line of open minded to anything and all ..yet still often appears very closed minded to certain things inwhich do not fit "our" personal nitches.

 

Master and I are sooooooooo not into scat nor care to read or hear anything about it...but we are open to the idea that there are others out there that are, and no negativity from us needs to intrude into their happiness simply because we do not dig it. It's a balance. Live and let live. Help where can. Avoid wasted breath on things that serve no purpose.

Best of Luck

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I can not sit here and see this stupidity continue with out comment.

Knighthawk (or someone that can't even use their own profile to comment) and reliant. Just who the hell do you think you are??

You speak of inteligence and respect but you demand that others not have an opinion unless it matchs your own??

I have lived this Lifestyle for almost 30 years now and last time I checked there was not a prerequsit that one has to be a sadist or masochist or think a certain way to be a Master or slave.

You all have truly corrupted what living this Lifestyle is all about.

A slave is not one that can take having nails driven through their nipples or endure massive amounts of pain and discomfort. This is a masochist and can be anyone including people who are vanilla.

A true slave is someone who's heart and soul feels the need to serve this Lifestyle and not just a person who calls themself a Dominant.

This means they do NOT need to be beaten or abused to be a slave.

Master/Mistress is not a term to be taken lightly as they have the responsibilty of someones very existance in their hands.

They must guide and nurture the one they own so they may truly blossum into a slave that is truly committed.

By your way of thinking I have to abuse My slave to be a True Master?? I don't think so!!!

If you don't like what I have to say, I really don't give a damn because your the one who started this post and I have the right to express My opinion in this forum weather you like it or not.

And for My last comment I must say if you don't like the way this site is being run then leave but SHUT UP and quit whining and crying like a child about some rating system that doesn't matter anyway.

You have only proven how immature and narrow minded you truly are.

ShadoWalker

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Consider the source. LordNight-Hawk and reliant, you both sound very intelligent. I think Georg Carlin said it best: " Think about how stupid/dumb the average person is...then realize that half the population is even dumber than that!!"; and being intelligent , that means what,? 75%, 80% of the population is now "below"u in smarts. So part of the burden u must carry for being intelligent,  is extreme patience for all of the ignorant people. People who haven't learned what you know. You can't learn other people's lessons for them. You must be patient and let them learn at thier own pace. So have some pity for those poor unintelligent people, and don't let their ignorance get past your pity. Don't let those unitelligent people with their ignorant thoughts bring you down. "Consider the source" and give it/them the time/effort they deserve. i truly enjoy your photos, and sharing with us your thoughts, please stay. dont let some "bad apples" spoil the whole thing for you. Hugs and support :)
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Confusion

Okay, there seems to be some confusion here about what my Master suggested; i will try to help. Slave Farm is listed on the Internet directory as a BDSM site. Therefore, one would expect to find Bondage here, Domination here also, Sadism (those who inflict pain upon others), and they should expect to find Masochism at SF (those who enjoy or find sexual pleasure from having pain inflicted upon themselves)! Bondage, Domination, Sado-Masochism, correct? Good so far?

Now, if you profess to be a slave and you wish to judge or comment on the pix posted by other slaves and Masters; whether you be slave or Master, you should be easily able to produce six (6) photos of yourself enduring some form of pain or suffering; Masters should be able to produce six images of their slave(s) in pain or suffering. If you cannot, then what gives you the right to call yourself a BDSM slave? This is a Slave Farm requirement for posting to win in the contest, not mine and not Lord KnightHawk's criteria; a minimum of six (6) BDSM type photos are required to win a free 1 month membership, they're rules, not O/ours.

W/we have absolutely nothing to do with any other facet of SF membership and neither does my Master's  suggestion. If you wish to judge the work of other slaves and Masters, how can you know what you are judging if have never been either? "Oh, that's a lovely outfit she's wearing so I'll give her a 10, OR,
I don't like black slaves so I'll rate this photo a 1?" Their ratings has no effect on whether you win a membership or not, so why have the ratings at all? Still good? Good!

Okay, still good? Now, someone suggested doing away with the ratings altogether, to which Lord KnightHawk agreed that yes, that would put an end to all problems regarding tasteless comments.

If there is no rating standards, then a slave who is let's say, "overweight" would not be ridiculed for obeying her Master and allowing herself to be seen in the contest galleries. i believe it was suggested by domdon1, above. This seems even more fair to His Lordship than any other suggestion. Just show the photos and let everyone keep their opinions to themselves. W/we are not saying that every one in the whole world should show their credentials to SF. Only those who patricipate, NOW, not even that; just get rid of the entire ratings system and not use it at all in v-4! BDSM photos are NOT rated anywhere else and this type of confusion doesn't exist anywhere else. Ultimately, it is the job of the Administrators to decide. There decision will also determine whether W/we stay or go! Everything clear now?

slave reliant, in His Lordship's service

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Perception

There seems to be this perception at SF, that anyone who seeks peace in this world lives in la-la land; that is a direct slap in the face of the very notion that intelligent life exist on this planet. W/we do not come from a pollyanna existence where sheep are safe from men, okay? The city of Chicago is hardly Disney Land!

Last time:  if Slave Farm wants to keep things the way they presently are, that's fine with U/us; W/we will simply no longer be here or post here, no problem. But the time will come when all of mankind will have to evolve from the neanderthal primate period and realize that this world is to be shared with others.

W/we have made friends here and a lot more fans than W/we ever imagined. They would like U/us to stay, W/we would like to stay, but not at the expense of being subjected to childish name-calling and racial slurs deposited into O/our PM box at some fool's discretion.

W/we sought to remain here and help remedy these problems but, if no one else sees them AS problems; then more power to the detractors who cause good people to leave and tell their friends that this is not a good place to try to peacefully co-exist with people of like mind because i can assure you; there is nowhere else on the Internet where mind-numb, haters get to badger innocent members just to get their pathetic rocks off.  

slave reliant, servant to Lord KnightHawk

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well besides falling into a trap here, I'm going to put my two cents in

 

1) you can place any photo of anyone and claim it to be anything/anyone.

2) unless you do an age verification with a credit card (not even close to 100% as kids can get daddys card) you can't verify anyone to be who they are. Lets keep in mind third world countries with computers these days...

3) Ill say it again, you always take a risk posting yourself to the world...please read....THE WORLD....this site is not restricted to one or two states or even one or two countries, so, unless you can profile seven billion people to fall into a certain category, then I say once again, anyone can claim to be anyone for any reason.

4) Utopia does not exist, I know, it sucks, but it doesn't, anymore then the perfect Master or perfect slave or the perfect setting or the perfect environment to sit and chat.

 

Alrighty, now, as for v-4 ? if there is going to be one ? lets consider some options

1) who is online ?

2) a mail system that actually works

3) a chat system that actually works and people use

4) a complete change of the meat market mentality this place has turned into to what it was at least attempting to be a few years ago....informative conversation about the lifestyle and a place for like minded to gather

5) a forum that makes some sense where mods do not hap-hazzardly delete items leaving responses as posts...."Ya, I know what mean".....and we all sit there attempting to figure out what who meant where, when and why.

 

 

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His Lordship

Greetings from U/us as well,   Lord KnightHawk will not be back for quite some time but i can respond on His behalf. It is never His intention to restrict anyone, not even those who make stupid remarks  and ignorant comments simply because they don't understand or know what they're talking about? He is about peaceful co-existence and helping to increase SF's membership. He said nothing about changing anything else. If you go to any other site and post pix on there , you are not subjected to personal criticism and attacks from clowns who have no idea what they're talking about. How is it a positive measure to chase away people who contribute to the photo gallery? It's not a contest, its cruelty and its unnecessary. Some ppl think they have the right to spit on sports figures just because they bought a ticket. They are ignorant as well! Human's have feelings and Master is offering ways to protect those feelings. One cannot do physical harm to another by calling them a n*gg*r or a "kite" but it is against the law because it hurts the other person's feeling to be spoken to/of as something less than they are. Its derogatory and does not promote harmony. It is dangerous to enpower the simple minded because there is no question as to whether they will do more harm than good!

If SF wants to keep things the way they are, then that is their right and no one is attacking that right. He offered an alternative, a mere suggestion and then gave His reasons for what W/we believe is just and fair. If W/we cannot speak O/our voice, then W/we are the ones being restricted and W/we have a membership here as well and are not looking to chase others away!

Humbly and on my Master's behalf,

slave reliant

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Greetings..

Gonna have to say that the pictures are nice and all but some of us have been coming here for awhile for more reasons than just the pictures. If thats your thing then more power to you (generalized) but that isn't all that makes slave farm what it is.

If your going to post pictures then you take the risk of positive and negative comments (free speech thing). If the comments break SF rules then the Mods I'm sure will deal with such accounts of offenders if noticed.

Don't think trying to push to make persons do certain things just because some others do it goes over well in deciding if they fit a label or not. I do not need to have Master inflict physical pain upon me to know beyond doubt that He is Master.

I'd really just be happy if they'd fix the messaging center so that messages that you send are kept so you know what the heck you said and were talking about with someone..lol.

 

starshine

 

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One Last Thing

I'm sorry, but I need to clear up one last issue before I go. Apparently some viewers thought that all the photos of kita_Dove were current. Some even accused me of over working her to the point of her nerves becoming fragile. The only session W/we shot in '09 was "zorra, MidKnight Masochist Returns", all other photo sessions were shot either in 2007 or 2008. If you need proof, pay close attention to all the various hair-styles and her wounds. Yeah, its a bitch to find out that you're the one whose nuts, huh? No slave could endure that much pain, week in and week out; not even kita_Dove. There are more than 2,000 photos still in our archives, that are yet to be published. Like I said, its a bitch when you meddle in other people's affairs and then find out how stupid you really are! Huh?

Lord KnightHawk Cool

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Time to get gone, but I must admit that domdon's idea of having no ratings system at all is a most excellent one and would solve all of the problems that go with having one. I like this idea better than my own and mine was absolutely brilliant!!!

Lord KnightHawk <<<<<WINGS>>>>> Cool

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So if I teach you one thing and your true Master teaches you something different, then I have added nothing but confusion to the equation. If you indeed have a Master, regardless of his level of experience, "as a committed Master myself, I am forbidden to teach his slave, ANYTHING! This may be why you don't get the answers you seek in here, or other places you may have tried. Let your Master teach you, or, change Masters. At the very least, don't say you have a Master if he is, through no fault of his own, incapable of teaching you at this point. I wish you the best of everything young one, but can assist you no further than this.

Lord KnightHawk"

All right and this is the way it should be if her Master or any other new Master has questions they wished answered fine we should give what advise we can, but to teach someone else's slave without it's Master knowledge is wrong.

As for the "contest" there are stupid people and for what ever reason they will alwast rate low, it gives these leser beings some feelings of power. I have placed photos in the contest and could care less how they are rated. I do understand how low rates could make a slave feel it has some how failed and reflects badly on it's Master.

 

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youngSub20: I too consider myself to be somewhat  altruistic, in that I typically will go out of my way to render aid and/or assistance to anyone in need of it. You seem very sincere and I would like nothing more than to teach you as much as you might be willing to learn; I'm sure others would too.

However, there are unwritten and unspoken laws amongst Masters that we all try to follow, okay? You claim to have a Master, for that reason alone, many of the Masters in here would be reluctant to teach you anything because it is simply not done.

It creates conflict and suborns confusion as well. Imagine if you will, that you have a new puppy that you are trying to teach how to roll over and play dead, okay? You teach your puppy to roll over to the right on your command and play dead. I'm your room-mate, so I come home and while you're gone, I start teaching the puppy to roll over to the left and play dead. You make it back home and we both at the same time say, "puppy...roll over and play dead!" The puppy will bark or yelp in panic because it won't know which one of us to obey, got it?

So if I teach you one thing and your true Master teaches you something different, then I have added nothing but confusion to the equation. If you indeed have a Master, regardless of his level of experience, as a committed Master myself, I am forbidden to teach his slave, ANYTHING! This may be why you don't get the answers you seek in here, or other places you may have tried. Let your Master teach you, or, change Masters. At the very least, don't say you have a Master if he is, through no fault of his own, incapable of teaching you at this point. I wish you the best of everything young one, but can assist you no further than this.

Lord KnightHawk

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CONTEST

Okay, I'll give it a shot. To some degree, it is a contest in that the prize is a free membership to Slave Farm for 1 month, I think it is. So yes, that does qualify as a prize, however, if your six submission minimum is accepted and published by SF, you have in essence already won your prize and will be contacted by email of the terms and conditions of your winnings. I have "won" a few so I speak from experience.

Now...to the part about the detractors. These are far too often those viewers who enjoy putting down the Masters and their slaves in very harsh fashion. Calling the slaves "fat nasty pigs" OR, making other statements that are euqally discouraging.

I say, if a person has the balls or brass nipples to expose their bare flesh to the public, hell, they deserve a metal and a great deal of respect. Also, there is this tiny issue of racism here, still; where some low ball a photo simply because the subject is of minority persuasion but have otherwise done nothing wrong.

Then, you have those who actually care and who offer positive suggestions and ways for a couple to enhance their relationship by adding a bit more spice or flavor. What I am trying to do, is to separate the detractors from their power base, to not cause unnecessary harm to someone's ego.

If a Master is trying to teach his slave and she is very young or new at this; that person may become so discouraged that they may leave and never return. This does not help SF's membership pool to grow, it merely forces some good people to leave here. Its unfair and it is ignorance and fear of differing views which causes it.

I'm convinced that by putting a muzzle on those who offend for no reason, some ppl might come back and new ones may join and stay. When my slave and I left a couple of weeks ago, W/we received an outpouring of love and pleads to not go, but to stay and fight. Guess I gave in to the latter. Hope this helps.

 

Lord KnightHawk

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i agree with You DomDon. hmmmm, i wonder what DarkScribe thinks on this?  always intrested in His, Don's and starshines thoughts on intresting issues~ big smiles

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Once again...I/we 110% agree with lord knight hawk. I will end on this note. Based on My/our experience, the negative or just flat out stupid comments and voting are usually either!!!
A...Regular horny males, that are wanna B Masters. Jealous and hating because they can't even manage their own lives let alone anyone else's, and then jerk off to porn to pretend they do.
B...Pathetic horny males posing as women, because they don't have much social interaction in their personal lives and need to add them selves to the long list of FAKES online, that have nothing better to do then waste other people's time that care.
C...submissive men which a whole book can be written about. Why some males want to let someone else control them when they have been born to lead is totally beyond My/our understanding. I/we believe in the "NATURAL" order of life. In the jungle the Lion is never ruled by the gazelle. Even tho the gazelle is beautiful, fast and strong, it knows its place, limitations, risk, and consequences when it enters the Lions domain. The gazelle didn't learn this by education, equal or fairness laws, political correctness, or modern technology, law suites, being afraid of "offending" something.  It learned because when it tried to stand up to the Lion. The Lion was un wavering and isn't afraid of being Lion and will rule because He was born to.
So consider the source when people post or judge with negativity. I/we all the time get told how lucky we are to have each other, and we smile and say thank you. But the real truth is...LUCK has very little to do with it. I have EVERYTHING I have in my life for a reason. Good, bad, and indifferent. Contrary to popular belief we attract what we are NOT always what we want. A Master/slave relationship isn't just about "FINDING" the right person. It's more about "BEING" The right person.
The Slave Farm I/we think will do a great job with its new version.
Master Lion & slave erika
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Right On!

Master Lion & slave erika's point is well made and equally well stated. Quite impressive actually.

While I don't have time to belabor the issue, I do offer the following statistics to support my suggestion:

I had slave reliant to research a large sampling of Slave Farm's membership, especially those who made negative comments and gave poor ratings concerning the photos W/we submitted to the contest.

 

It says "contest" right over there ------------------>

 

Those who rated the photos below a 7 (seven) had no contributions of their own; not a single picture and many had no profile whatsoever. Likewise, those who rated the photos from 7-10, every single one, every one of them have had submissions of their own slave or BDSM situations. It is therefore difficult to understand what qualifies a person to call themselves a slave or a Master or present themselves as such, if they cannot produce six samplings of their work. If a person wears a badge and a cop's uniform but they are not, they will go to jail for false impersonation. The sole purpose behind presenting credentials is to verify that you are whomever you say you are; if you are not, then you are both living a lie and making a fool of the public at large.

It should be unlawful in public and shameful in here to portray yourself as something you can't prove yourself to actually be. It is even more shameful, to then low ball someone's effort when you have never personally experienced their labors of love or contributed anything but lousy, off color comments to ruin what is otherwise an excellent gallery.

I am not talking about anyone who has been a slave and is/are now retired or anyone who has served as a Master but is now retired, who still have photos in Slave Farm's archives or vault. I'm talking about the ones who claim to be Masters or slaves currently: right now!!!

If they cannot produce verification, they should be forced to relinquish said title. No one can claim to be the "Heavyweight Boxing Champion of the World" without the belt to prove it!

These are righteous standards that I propose and they would not effect any other participation at Slave Farm, only those who submit to the contest and those who wish to rate the contest. This is more than fair. I can't begin to imagine or understand why any real Master or slave would be opposed to this suggestion. Can you?

 

It says "contest" right over there---------------->

 

Lord KnightHawk

 

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OK, my question is why do we even rate the photos?  As for the word "Contest", what does anyone win?  Let us be honest, the contest may be a holdover from V-1, but it is not used today as such and having photos rated by anyone is not productive.
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This comment like others make me feel out of place. I went to other sites and did not like them. I am kind of in a master/slave relationship. We are new and working on it and need idea's and different views. So I like this site because I see a lot of people like me. What is this contest? So I don't have anyone physically to talk to people obviously would think I need a shrink??? then I try to talk on here but its like I am not hard core enough....I don't know......It seems the qualifications of a master/slave relationship seem to be getting more intense... Some one Correct me....Teach me... I mean what the F*** Or is it that ya'll are just trying to screen out the perverts, fakes, and scammers???????
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